Atomozero What if we act like Debian and apply patches to the base project? If something conflicts with our decisions down the line, we can assess it case by case.
I don't know what you mean. To me Debian is the base project for other projects such as Ubuntu.
An example I can think of is GrapheneOS that applies changes on top of AOSP. To me that is more of a tweak than a fork since each version of GrapheneOS is build on top of the latest AOSP. A lot of GrapheneOS's changes are accepted by AOSP, which is a good thing.
No matter what a relationship with Haiku is beneficial.
clasqm Problems for us or for them?
Both, plus all end users.
clasqm In another post you mentioned that your computer no longer boots after an update. If we just automatically sync with Haiku, that kind of errors get synced as well.
That was not caused by Haiku itself, but by the package system. I have not investigated it but it might be because Haiku has not implemented a routine for keeping old systems up and running when never base systems exist. For example R1B5 users are screwed when they created the R1B6 branch.
clasqm If we take the idea of a fork seriously, then Haiku would not be "upstream" in the sense that the GNU Project is "upstream" for the core utils. The two projects would exist side-by-side from that point forwards.
And my point is that this should be avoided at all cost. It will be very expensive in resources.
clasqm We are a very, very long way from that situation. We all wish this conversation was not necessary. But we are having it, and we are talking about ONE fork.
The first fork is the start of the second, and the third...
clasqm If we are not even allowed to mention it on the official channel, in our little separate ghetto, without a zealot starting another flamewar with the moderators looking on and doiing nothing, then it is time to talk about a clean break.
I've been silenced and banned more times than I can remember by simply speaking my mind (not breaking any rules!) so trust me I know what you are talking about. But it is separate from the software development part. I don't see how forum rules have anything to do with the development of software.
Creating this forum where individuals are free to talk openly about their opinions is a good solution to the free speech problem. But forking software because of free speech on a forum is overkill.
I want to add that I do not like AI in any form but I believe each is allowed to use it as they see fit. I support Haiku banning AI code simply because I want humanity to stay as human as possible. In my opinion the clash with the Haiku project is about free speech, not AI.
